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This is one several pages provided as a vehicle for posting questions related to Bagshot people and families that other readers might be able to answer. The index to these is here. Please scroll down to the message pad to ask a question or provide an answer.

If you are seeking genealogical information about your ancestors then look at the page entitled "looking for your roots" where I tell you where the old church records are archived, and offer some further suggestions and information sources to help your search. I am not able to provide any information from such old records or to conduct research on your behalf.

I have another page for general questions about Bagshot.

Cannon

From Australia : Looking for details on the Cannon family to plug gaps in our family histoty : Charles William Cannon m. Sarah Jane Thurmer 1882, Reg Dist Chertsey. Children (there may be more): Charles Edwin Cannon b.1886; George Arthur b. 1887; Nellie b. 1890; Rose or Rosie b. 1892; Alfred M. b. 1894; Alice Sarah (Sally) b. 1897 m. William Stacey; and Thomas Cannon b. 1899. All four Cannon boys were killed in WWI. In 1918 mother Sarah Jane Cannon (nee Thurmer) was living in St John's Cottage, Windlesham, as a widow. Prior to thier war service two of the boys were nursery labourers: Charles Edwin and George Arthur. We are wondering what happened to the family. Did they move? Did any of the children marry, besides Alice Sarah? Any help would be amazing - I am just about to give up! Thank you 556.405
From Robert Thurmer, wondering if he is related to the original enquirer: I am a relation of the Cannons as my great great grandfather's sister married a Cannon. 7076.1007

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Cheadle

Lyn writes Does anyone recall the Cheadle family who lived on Jenkins Hill opposite Waterers Nursery, around the 1930's. My Mum was one of the Cheadle girls and I would love to hear from anyone who remembers them. ref117, r594

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Cooper

Lisa is seeking information about her Grandfather, Edwin Joseph Cooper, who, about 1940, lived in Belle Vue Cottage on the London Road. Also her Great Grandparents John Jones (who in 1912 was a Journeyman Painter living at Lambourn Villa) and Florence Agnes Jones (nee Moore).

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Corbett

Judy Corbett writes from Australia ref589-1005 I have been researching the Surrey Corbetts for some time now and recently down loaded a Will for a JOSEPH CORBETT .

Joseph's will (proven in 1779) left all his worldly goods including the freehold to THE FIGHTING COCK INN WINDLESHAM SURREY to his wife ANN CORBETT. There are no children named in the will but IGI have three daughters born Windlesham

I also have copy from Surrey News paper dated 10/08/1867 re WILLIAM CORBETT [Fighting Cocks at Fighting Cock Inn]

The 1881 census informs me that William Corbett was a retired Publican High St Fighting Cock Inn and that his son JONATHAN CORBETT was proprietor.

William was born 1811 in Epsom and was the elder brother of Charles Corbett who came to Australia in 1855 .This is my link to the family.

I was very excited to find the INN still in existence and would greatly appreciate any history / information that is available. It appears the Inn had been in Corbett hands for quite a few years.

At that time the distinction between Bagshot and Windlesham will have been blurred. Whilst they are separate villages they were one parish (Windlesham). Please use the message pad at the foot of the page if you can add anything.

William James Collins (1897-1989) & Mary Constance Hammond

Julia first wrote from Canada in 2002 and more recently provided an update on her progress: 446

My great-great grandfather, William James Collins was born in Bagshot on July 16, 1897 (d:August 10,1989, British Columbia, Canada). His Father was Henry Edward Collins (or possibly Edward Henry Collins) and his mother was Sophia Ware. I believe they were married in 1879. He had seven or eight brothers and sisters.
He married "Dodie" (Mary Constance Hammond) from nearby on January 22, 1921 at The Parish Church. His occupation is stated to be a Chauffeur. His mother was not present and I wonder if she was deceased by then. One of the witnesses was G.T. (or G.J.) Collins.
William and Dodie raised their family in Windlesham. They had four children: Pamela (1921-1977); Pat (1926-1927); Daphne (1929-1983) and Arthur with wife and one son. Arthur died in Australia in1999.
William and his family (except for Arthur) were living in BC, Canada by the early 1950's.
Pamela's daughter, Patricia Dawn (1942-1988) born in Windlesham was my mother.
And finally, I have a paper from The Burial Board for the Parish of Windlesham dated Nov. 2, 1934. It acknowledges payment from Mr. Collins of Cheuiston (Cherciston?) Lodge, Sunningdale with exclusive right to Grave Space No. 30, Section D. I am assuming this is my Gr-Grandfather William but could it be his fathers 'reservation'? I do know that William's body was flown to England for burial.

From a local resident : A grave exists at Bagshot to Henry Collins died 16 June 1957 that also carries inscriptions to James Ware and Sophia Ware with no added detail as to dates etc, I am still working on some research at the graveyard maybe I can eventually get a little more information. 540.605

Hammond appears to have been a long established family name in the area, and among references in a local history book are: John Hamond 1664; Edward Hammond of Windlesham a nurseryman in 1813; Henry, presumed to be his son, nurseryman in 1823 apparently with an expanding business. There is reference to John Collins having had a shop erected about 1840 but it is not clear if this was in Windlesham or Bagshot. I do not know if these people are related.

I was able to tell Julia about David Hammond's site which she tells me was very useful.

If you can add anything to Julia's knowledge of the Collins family line I will be pleased to forward it. Please reply via the message pad at the foot of the page.

Cox, Newman & Knight

Steve Dale writes: 7001.107

I have in my possession a newspaper article from 1914 concerning my great great grandfather, Tom Cox, who worked at Waterer's Nursery for 67 years - and was still working aged 91. He lived at Nursery Cottage, which I think was in Cox's Lane (named after him we believe). I also know from the 1881 census that prior to living in Nursery Cottage he and his wife Caroline lived at 12 High Street, Bagshot. Tom's daughter was Ada Cox who married Charles Newman and had two daughters Betty and Louisa. Betty Newman married Harold Knight in 1931 and they had two children John and Ann (my mother). Ann and John Knight went to Bagshot school.
I would dearly love to hear from anyone who remembers any of my family, and would very much like to know what happened to Cox's Lane - since I can find no trace of it anywhere on maps. Many thanks.

Subsequent correspondence suggests that Cox Lane is now known as Fry's Lane. I was aware that an old map shows the names of Fry's Lane and Higgs Lane swapped over, but I had not heard of Cox Lane. It would seem that in times gone by street names were really rather arbitrary.

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Dartnall

Robin Wood writes 7010.0207

My ancester James Dartnall's will of 1868 showed that he owned Belle Vue Farm, Windlesham, Bagshot. James was born in Kent and lived in London, renting the farm to a Thomas Dodds. Does anyone know anything about this farm, or of any Dartnalls living in the area in the late 1700s early 1800s?

Drennan

James Legge writes 7083.308

On reading the piece about Bagshot park ... my friend at school lived in the lower lodge house (opposite the BP garage) and his father was a r.s.m in the royal green jackets who apparantly were stationed there. I know he held parades there and sadly died one morning while in charge of one. Why were they there I cannot remember. Also can anybody help with Drennans farm in the park on the left as you go up the lower drive from the A30. Robert was a friend as was his brother. We used to go to the farm from the infant school and the whole class rode in a cart around the farm. They used to do this every year, is the farm still there? I used to help the milkman from Cliffords dairy deliver milk to the big house in the mid sixties and watched all the staff in uniforms working cooking and cleaning and making us a cup of tea. It certainly was a beautiful place.

Edwards

Brian Knowles writes ref607-1205

I have discovered that several of my ancestors with the surname 'Edwards' who were born at Horningsham, near Warminster in Wiltshire, close to Longleat Estate, moved to Bagshot in the period between 1840 and 1860. I am mystified as to why but wonder whether Bagshot Park had connections with Longleat Estate in those days.

I recalled a previous enquiry about the name 'Knowles' in connection with gardening at Bagshot Park and discussed with Brian whether his family's movements might have been connected with the rebuilding of the estate for the Duke of Connaught.

The 'Knowles' branch of my family had no Surrey connections, so far as I am aware. I do know, of course, of the connection of that name with Bagshot Park.
Some of the 'Edwards' who moved between Horningsham in Wiltshire and Bagshot were gardeners, though one was a bricklayer. The latter profession would also have been needed in the rebuilding of Bagshot Park in 1860 and perhaps for the construction of walls in the gardens. Strangely, some of these ancesters moved between the two localities over extended periods of time between 1840 and 1880 and some had children born in both localities. It would be interesting to know if employee records remain in respect of either Bagshot Park or Longleat House. It may be, of course, that other families had these dual connections.

Regretably it seems that no employee records remain. Others who have enquired about ancestors who were in Royal domestic service have been unable to find anything, so I doubt that there is any chance of finding records of the employment of those who would have been considered to be the labouring classes.

Collison

The drinking trough now located at the bottom of Church Road is dedicated to "Katharine and Henry Clerke Collison. November 1910". Do you know who the Collison's were and why the trough is dedicated to them?

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